I went to check the latest CL Personals listings and here is what I got:
"US Congress just passed HR 1865, "FOSTA", seeking to subject websites to criminal and civil liability when third parties (users) misuse online personals unlawfully.
Any tool or service can be misused. We can't take such risk without jeopardizing all our other services, so we are regretfully taking craigslist personals offline. Hopefully we can bring them back some day.
To the millions of spouses, partners, and couples who met through craigslist, we wish you every happiness!"
It is unacceptable when our government prevents entirely legal and enjoyable activities by legislating their stated objective of killing off an extremely rare crime!
That’s what they’ve just done with their "Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act", they’ve killed off the odd art of the personals ad at places like Craigslist. All in the name, as the law implies of stopping sex trafficking, something that we can all agree should be stopped, but which accounts for far less than 1% of all Personal Ad types of online postings.
Our representatives have found a way to kill off the freedom of speech protection within our constitution that allowed horny adults to post Personal Ads to try and "Hook Up". I do not believe that the only goal of this legislative bull shit was killing off sex traffickers. This bill was obviously aimed at shutting down various online classified ads so that the Republicans could suppress the people who used Personal Ads, which were probably mostly Democrats. The Republicans simply wanted to eliminate places online where consenting adults can go ask “Anyone want to have sex with me?”
So much for that freedom consenting adults are supposed to have as guaranteed by the US Constitution.
Craigslist is shutting down its personals section.
The service announced on Friday it will no longer operate the portion of its website that allows individuals to seek encounters with strangers.
The move comes two days after the Senate approved of bipartisan legislation called the Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act.
The rough enough background, the one that enables us to understand what is going on, is that internet sites aren’t responsible for what happens with content generated by users. In this they’re being treated like the telephone company – which isn’t responsible for crimes committed by people talking to each other on the phone. The people who do the wire fraud, to use a slightly different example, can be and are prosecuted, but not the people who own the wires.
So, any ad space which could conceivably be used as a cover for such trafficking is going to be closing down. As Craigslist has said:
The specific crime we’re being protected from here is sex trafficking. Something which really doesn’t exist above the tiniest statistical blip. I mean there are recorded cases of it but they’re very few and far between. Near all the talk we hear of it, the reporting and the stories, is of something very different indeed. Something that even might be a crime still, dependent upon the jurisdiction, but it’s not sex trafficking.
US Congress just passed HR 1865, “FOSTA”, seeking to subject websites to criminal and civil liability when third parties (users) misuse online personals unlawfully.
Any tool or service can be misused. We can’t take such risk without jeopardizing all our other services, so we are regretfully taking craigslist personals offline. Hopefully we can bring them back some day.
To the millions of spouses, partners, and couples who met through craigslist, we wish you every happiness!
The true definition here is the forcing into sexual slavery of men or women. The setting them up for repeated rape so that those doing the forcing can charge money. There is also a strong implication of moving people around so that this repeated rape, sexual slavery, can take place.
This is rare, vanishingly rare. For example, there was a concerted effort by the British police to investigate this. Every police force in the country spent 6 months combing the known sex trade looking for incidences. At the end of this not one single person was prosecuted. On the simple grounds that not one single person could be found who was, convincingly, even maybe guilty of sex trafficking. Sure, maybe the US is different but not that different.
There is also though that other and incorrect meaning of sex trafficking. Which is the moving around of consenting adults who then sell sex. Consenting note, people who agree to do this. It wouldn’t be a great surprise to find that if 30,000 people turn up to a race meeting that demand for sexual services is going to rise a little above background levels in that area.
Equally unsurprising would be that some who sell sexual services arrive in order to do so to that waiting crowd. This other, incorrect, definition of sex trafficking includes this. Adults, voluntarily, moving to where they can sell the sex they’re willing enough to sell voluntarily.
Perhaps we’d not wish to partake even in this, perhaps we frown on it, possibly it’s immoral and it’s still illegal in many places. But it is different from sex trafficking and that repeated rape, isn’t it?
The general coverage of the area insists that this second and common form is the same as the first. And thus, given how appalling that first form is, we’d better be prepared to do anything to stamp out the second. Including, as Congress has just done, kill off the most effective public access "personals pages" in the history of the world!
Craigslist eliminated its personal ads Friday after Congress passed a bill that would penalize websites that promote sex trafficking and prostitution, even if the content is posted by a third party.
Maybe prostitution is bad, immoral and possibly illegal too, but we should be killing off the personals sections to get at it?